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    I am thinking of swapping out my old 1984 flathead KF82 - 341CC gas club car engine for an upgraded new one. What can you guys recommend? Looking for something that is the easiest retro fit.

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    You are going to want to look for a motor that runs counter clockwise. Most run a Honda GX630 Engine with a Comet 1190 clutch. If honda does not make a ccw engine, I know briggs does. Fabricating a motor mount that fits up to the stock mounts is what most of us do. Allow for play room to adjust the drive belt. More info on cc motors http://www.golfcartsforum.com/genera...ve.html#post20
    Regards

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    • #3
      It really depends on how much you are thinking of spending. There's the Big Block kits from CPP, and then there are also the "clone" engines you can purchase through HarborFreight or similar companies. Neither one is too difficult, though i can't speak from experience about the clones, I went with the B.B. kit in mine due to the availability of high performance parts for those engines.

      Jason

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      • #4
        Update to this thread !! I just purchased the HF 13hp CC rotation Predator engine. First glance is great. Now the fun begins,
        1. Needs new non tappered clutch.
        2. Fab new throttle cable assy.
        3. Fab new motor mount.
        4. Fab new exhaust due to forward location
        5. Fab new choke method
        6. Gut exsisting wiring for new harness to extend key switch to dash board.
        no need for solenoid or regulator.
        7.Put all oem parts on ebay to pay for new build !!

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        • Donna cart
          Donna cart commented
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          Sorry to keep reposting new at this but it looks like you move the throttle cable for words in the box to clear the motor and I was looking for a new throttle cable could you tell me where to find one thank you in advance

      • #5
        Keep us posted, I am thinking about this conversion.

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        • #6
          Will do.

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          • #7
            Way to go, pics would be AWESOME. Subscribed BTW
            Regards

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            • #8
              Clone Transplant done, Predator 420cc electric start. stator puts out about 7 volts, hope its enough. Yes I know...pictures pictures pictures, they will follow soon I promise along with all the fab work I had to do. BTW, there is no suitable vacuum source for my stock fuel pump, Had to switch to electric fuel pump.

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              • #9
                Ok here we go. Pictures in order from left to right top to bottom.
                1. Rubber cusion under bolted down snubber. Works great.
                2. New Comet Clutch
                3. Exhaust configuration with heat sheild, Used exsisting muffler, welded a down pipe to exit point. The flywheel/fan and shroud tins direct air through the exhaust hood which is awesome, runs really cool, but I added the heat sheild anyway....gas.....exhaust....
                4. Front motor mounts, Original plate mounts intact, moved motor back 2.25 inches.
                5. Rear plate mount raised 2.25 inches to clear transaxle and to level the motor. I used .75 inch pipe spacers cut to match the angle. Picture is kinda blurry. Sorry.
                6. Modified throttle connections. Cut regulator box down for clearance. Kept old throttle pivot point, Cut new notch for cable to mount. ( build new one later to get rid of regulator box, looks like a hack job
                7. Overall pic.
                8. So ready to put the body on. I have some more accessory wiring to do yet.
                9. No pic but had to add an electric fuel pump. no usable vaccum on the predator engine.
                I think I am going to leave the original Predator fuel tank in place and use it as an auxillary reserve tank. Its not in the way of anything.
                If yall have any suggestions let me know.
                Next up is reassembly of the body. I cant wait to test drive it !!
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                Updated by krustybucket; March 22, 2012, 08:20 AM.

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                • Donna cart
                  Donna cart commented
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                  So on your throttle cable you just moved it forward towards the sea and put a new notch is that correct that's what I was going to do because it was hitting the motor where can I pick up a new cable you have a website

              • #10
                Posted earlier by dirtman
                I am thinking of swapping out my old 1984 flathead KF82 - 341CC gas club car engine for an upgraded new one. What can you guys recommend? Looking for something that is the easiest retro fit.
                The Honda and Briggs twins are probably worth more than your cart. They are big$$$$. I would do a chinese clone or ungovern your flathead if its still running good. Just watch your revs if you do. My first cart had the FZ 340 and it ran good ungoverned. I know there are chinese V-twin clones made but have not seen one available through anyone besides importers. I have seen them in gas and diesel but like I said ,not sure how many hoops you have to jump through to get one.

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                • #11
                  Way to go, Great pictures!!!! I like the color
                  Regards

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                  • #12
                    Finished pics on the way ! Runs great !

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                    • #13
                      Here it is all finished...whew... Pulls great with the HF 420cc engine.
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                      Updated by krustybucket; March 27, 2012, 10:25 AM.

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                      • #14
                        Posted earlier by krustybucket
                        Here it is all finished...whew... Pulls great with the HP 420cc engine.
                        your cart looks great.since you have gone that far are you going to change your seat colors. I think they would look good in black or black with yellow. Good job on everything.

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                        • #15
                          Posted earlier by ak47fan
                          your cart looks great.since you have gone that far are you going to change your seat colors. I think they would look good in black or black with yellow. Good job on everything.
                          Thank you very much.
                          Last remaining wish items....
                          Custom seat covers
                          new roof/roll bar assembly with safari rack.
                          Wider tires and wheels.

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                          • Donna cart
                            Donna cart commented
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                            It looks like you move the throttle cable for words in the box to clear the motor that's what I was going to do and can you tell me where to find a throttle cable May be a website thank you

                        • #16
                          Hi krustybucket can you tell me what model clutch you used and what belt width you used I have a DS clubcar I would like to convert Thanks

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                          • #17
                            Conversion parts

                            Here is the clutch I used. The existing belt worked just fine.



                            Updated by krustybucket; November 29, 2012, 09:33 AM. Reason: added url

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                            • #18
                              Thanks ! Nice cart ! This is a nice golf cart site

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                              • #19
                                Posted earlier by speedbuggy
                                Thanks ! Nice cart ! This is a nice golf cart site
                                This is a great forum with lots of great people. Welcome Speedbuggy, post some pictures of your cart or project. We love us some pictures !!

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                                • #20
                                  Okay I'm going to try to post some pics. Okay I'm not sure how to insert them sorry

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                                  • #21
                                    i have a honda gx630 with 77.8 hrs on it with a 1in keyed shaft for sale with muffler 600 obo 646 410 6704

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                                    • #22
                                      Posted earlier by krustybucket
                                      Thank you very much.
                                      Last remaining wish items....
                                      Custom seat covers
                                      new roof/roll bar assembly with safari rack.
                                      Wider tires and wheels.
                                      what kind of speed or you getting out of your cart? I just put the same motor in my Jacobson but does not seem to have the top end it should. Thanks and your cart looks great.

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                                      • #23
                                        Top end is about 25 to 30 mph

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                                        • #24
                                          I have also converted over to the 13hp Predator engine in my G2 yamaha . I had to make several modifications to it. I am still dealing with fuel issues. As stated there isn`t sufficient vacuum from the valve cover vent to pump enough gas to sustain higher rpm`s. I tried a electric low volume fuel pump but over powers the float in the carb and causes it to flood badly. What type of fuel pump did you use? I would really like to stay with the original fuel tank.

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                                          • #25
                                            So it looks like to me you moved the throttle cable for words in the box so it does not hit the motor because that's what I was going to do you have a place to get a new cable maybe a website

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                                            • #26
                                              This is a chopped up 1985 Club Car, seized the 341cc motor today, any ideas before I go HF?

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                                              • #27
                                                did you modify the stock motor plate?

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